Tor Messenger 0.3.0b1 is released
We are pleased to announce another public beta release of Tor Messenger. This release features important improvements to the stability and security of Instantbird. All users are highly encouraged to upgrade.
Tor Browser Build
Starting with this release, Tor Messenger will be built on top of Tor Browser instead of Mozilla ESR. This will help us in improving the security of Tor Messenger by making use of Tor Browser's patches. We will also try to keep in sync with the Tor Browser stable release cycle.
Secure Updates
Tor Messenger 0.2.0b2 users will be automatically prompted to install the update (similar to Tor Browser). On installing and restarting, the update will be applied; your account settings and OTR keys will be preserved.
Downloads
Please note that Tor Messenger is still in beta. The purpose of this release is to help test the application and provide feedback. At-risk users should not depend on it for their privacy and safety.
sha256sums-unsigned-build.txt
sha256sums-unsigned-build.txt.asc
The sha256sums-unsigned-build.txt
file containing hashes of the bundles is signed with the key 0xB01C8B006DA77FAA
(fingerprint: E4AC D397 5427 A5BA 8450 A1BE B01C 8B00 6DA7 7FAA
). Please verify the fingerprint from the signing keys page on Tor Project's website.
Changelog
Tor Messenger 0.3.0b1 -- 22 November 2016
- All Platforms
- Use the tor-browser-45.5.0esr-6.0-1 branch (e5dafab8) on tor-browser
- Use the THUNDERBIRD_45_4_0_RELEASE tag on comm-esr45
- Update ctypes-otr to 0.0.3
- Trac 16489: Only show "close" button on Windows
- Trac 16491: Contact list entries don't adapt to the actual font size
- Trac 16536: Investigate Tor Browser patches relevant to Tor Messenger
- Trac 17471: Investigate Tor Browser preferences relevant to Tor Messenger
- Trac 17480: Make url linkification toggleable
- Trac 19816: Build process should generate mar files
- Trac 20205: Support SASL ECDSA-NIST256P-CHALLENGE
- Trac 20208: Put conversations on hold by default
- Trac 20231: Remove incomplete translations
- Trac 20276: Fix toggling sounds
- Trac 20608: Use Instantbird app version
- Bugzilla 1246431: Properly handle incoming xmpp server messages
- Bugzilla 1313137: Fix irc "msg is not defined" error
- Bugzilla 1316000: Remove old Yahoo! Messenger support
- Mac
- Trac 20204: Windows don't drag on macOS Sierra
- Trac 20206: Avoid prompting to download font "Osaka" on macOS Sierra
- Trac 20207: IB and Tor Messenger still share a notification key
- Windows
- Trac 20062: Make stripping signatures reproducible on TM .exe files
Comments
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Would it make sense to
Would it make sense to enforce harder tls/ssl settings for TorMessenger by default?
like tls v 1.2, as suggested on https://privacy-handbuch.de/handbuch_24s2.htm
---
security.tls.version.min = 3
security.ssl3.ecdhe_rsa_aes_128_gcm_sha256 true
security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_aes_128_gcm_sha256 true
security.ssl3.* false
security.ssl.require_safe_negotiation true
security.ssl.treat_unsafe_negotiation_as_broken true
That page also says, > Wenn
That page also says,
> Wenn mit diesen Einstellungen keine Verbindung zum Jabber-Server mehr möglich ist, dann sollte man sich einen Account auf einem anderen Server erstellen.
which Google is translating as,
> If you can not connect to the Jabber server with these settings, you should create an account on another server.
I like the idea, but it probably belongs in a Tor Browser-like security slider, since it'll impact some usability.
We plan on working on this in,
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/16494
I'll make note of it there.
Plus one. In Tor Browser,
Plus one.
In Tor Browser, the lines
security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_aes_128_sha
security_ssl3.dhe_rsa_aes_256_sha
should be regarded as enabling a dangerous encryption downgrade attack, agreed?
You should change the config
You should change the config of the tbb otherwise you might get tracked but changing (and there are still a whole lot of sites using outdated crypto).
But's a different matter for you xmpp or email account because your email/xmpp provider already "knows" you and gets all your meta data anyway (Either way if you use an onion service, ssl is less of an issue).
viz. security.ssl3.*
viz. security.ssl3.* false
//just guess what the asterisk might stand for;) , the last RFC regarding TLS/SSL clear states what ciphers are recommended for use.
But at least for the web (tbb) it makes no sense to turn them off by default (at least not yet, it's like with javascript there a good reasons to turn it off by default but unfortunately you would break too many sites).
But If you have a separate Firefox Profile that you just use for let's say online banking it's a different matter.
you got this h
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Since Tor Messenger is now
Since Tor Messenger is now built on Tor Browser, do you have any plans to merge the two products so that they come combined in one package (with separate shortcuts/.desktop files) once Tor Messenger is stable? I don't really have a preference either way at this point, but I'm curious about your thoughts.
A few quick notes:
- It would get more people aware of and using Tor Messenger.
- It would be nice to have a single package that we could give to non-techies for secure, anonymous internet access (since most of them don't do more than browsing websites, webmail, and instant messaging). However, having to download one package instead of two that are on the same download page isn't a huge benefit.
- For those who would use both Tor Browser and Tor Messenger, it would reduce the amount of your server bandwidth (and Tor network traffic) required to download and update both programs (it would have the opposite effect for those who would only use one of them). The savings (costs) may be neglible depending on how much code is shared.
- For those who would use both Tor Browser and Tor Messenger, there's some minor benefit in having to only update one program and using a bit less hard drive space for duplicated functionality.
- You should be able to force links in Tor Messenger chats to open in Tor Browser (instead of the computer's default browser) to prevent IP leakage.
- You'd have to come up with a separate name for the combined package to avoid confusion (e.g. "Tor Internet Bundle," or just the bland "Tor Browser and Messenger"), which would involve renaming the package on the website and in the download file names.
In case there's any
In case there's any misconception, by "built on" we mean they share a common source tree, not that it somehow uses the compiled Tor Browser. These are still two entirely separate executables.
In the past, Tor did distribute a combined Tor Instant Messaging Bundle (TIMB), which I believe contained a Pidgin along w/ the usual Tor Browser stuff. I'm not sure there're any plans to reinstate that, but it's probably worth considering.
We have been thinking about how these applications can work better together, like make use of a shared tor process. That's in https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/10950
As for forcing links to open in TB, the messaging windows currently filters out anchors by default. If you manage to change that setting, it should prompt you to choose a browser to use, rather than the system default. We're still working on a safer way to handle links.
yeah or even as an firefox
yeah or even as an firefox plugin, so we can have an option to have it or not... am non-programming tor user, so no idea if this firefoxplug-in/add-on has legs or a good or bad idea.
either way super work by all involved.
Even more important: folding
Even more important: folding TM into Tails, with the cooperation of the Tails Project, of course.
I realize that one problem there is that TM regards the current version as still "beta", and Tails probably prefers something which has passed some kind of audit, but Tails has long included pidgen support, which also has imperfect security I believe.
TM is being considered to
TM is being considered to replace Pidgin in Tails.
See https://tails.boum.org/blueprint/replace_Pidgin/
Whether it ends up in TAILS
Whether it ends up in TAILS or not please let it have an official build in Debian.
This will let it benefit many more activists and regular netizens as well as making its traffic blend in more. It will also of course make it more likely for TAILS to include it.
With the quality of Tor project software, even a beta version might be good enough to be included in Debian, since there is a drastically higher standard for things like GPG and Tor than say for Super Tux Cart or Facebook Mobile.
Making a deb is tracked
Making a deb is tracked in,
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/18449
Well, if you look at RFC
Well, if you look at RFC standard regarding TLS (RFC 7525) is says:
4.2. Recommended Cipher Suites
Given the foregoing considerations, implementation and deployment of
the following cipher suites is RECOMMENDED:
o TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
o TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
o TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
o TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
These cipher suites are supported only in TLS 1.2 because they are
authenticated encryption (AEAD) algorithms [RFC5116].
Ie to follow the recommendations of the RFCs and to use the recommanded ciphers tls version 1.2 has to be used and most XMPP servers support it (i don't know of any exception)(tls v1.1 was published in 2006, maybe it's time to move on;)), IMHO tls v 1.2 should be enforced by any xmpp messenger and only if the user decides (for example cos this particular sever doesn't support tls v 1.2) it should be downgraded (like it's possible to turn logging on but at least its disabled by default by Tor Messenger)
btw, the tls issue might be relevant for torbirdy, too. Torbirdy allows weaker ssl/tls setings as the RFC standard recommends, too (https://privacy-handbuch.de/handbuch_31k.htm - Thunderbird).If most email provider support tls v. 1.2 why not making it the standard in torbirdy and tormessenger (and if something doesn't work, the user at least knows that his email provider might no be the best choice)?
What I'm trying to say is, this option should be standard setting and not something that a user has to set through a slider (it should be hidden and the user should be warrant to change it, like the other options in torbidy;) )
//It's not like with the tbb where one might visit dozens of page an hour, most people just have one xmpp account anyway and therefore enforcing the recommendated standards isn't really a blow to usage (IMHO)
Ok, I was going to say that
Ok, I was going to say that current settings are based on what Mozilla has enabled in ESR 45, and what the Tor Browser team has further narrowed down.
You make a fair point though that perhaps this isn't a setting in the purview of a slider. We'll consider it for the next release.
it's not work :(
it's not work :(
Can you please provide some
Can you please provide some more details?
> Can you please provide
> Can you please provide some more details?
Yes, windows xp I get this error:
instantbird.exe - Entry Point Not Found --- [x]
____________________________________
(X) The procedure entry point_vsnprintf_s could not be located in the dynamic link library msvcrt.dll.
[OK]
_____________________________________
Note that instantbird works for me on same machine
Ok, yes, this is a known
Ok, yes, this is a known cross-compilation issue. Tor Messenger does not work on Windows XP at this time.
See https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorMessenger/FAQ#Wind…
But TM is based on TB which
But TM is based on TB which has fixed it.
No, the issue is in using
No, the issue is in using MinGW-w64 when building.
See https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/17469
and https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/9084
Note that ESR 52 will be last one supporting XP,
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1305453
Sorry, to clarify, TB and TM
Sorry, to clarify, TB and TM are using different build systems, and we haven't ported over that patch yet.
See https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/17379 for where both will be using rbm.
Please consider replacing
Please consider replacing your end-of-life'd Windows XP with the free, and legal, QubesOS(qubes-os.org/downloads/) rather than getting a pirated(and likely infected) copy of some newer version of Windows.
QubesOS doesn't have all the scary things you hear about Linux. For example, you don't have to do any wizardry in a "terminal" or "command line" for basic things like connecting to your WiFi, checking your email and so on. You can do everything with a simple, color coded, point and click GUI.
What makes it better is it was designed from day 1 to be safe from hackers and identity thieves.
Linux was not made with that in mind and it takes very complicated technical configuration to make it safe. Windows can't even be made safe.
If you aren't worried about your own computer, then worry about other people's computers being infected by some shady Windows infection on yours.
QubesOS is the only safe, responsible OS for every-day normal people.
God bless you.
Yes awsomeness
Yes awsomeness
Awesomesauce privacy
Awesomesauce privacy
Can anyone please give me a
Can anyone please give me a list of secure XMPP servers that are Tor friendly?
You should check if yio need
You should check if yio need some special feature like support for otr, omeo or push notifications (eg is XEP-0357 and might be important for mobile use) etc. (XMPP is a federated standard and not all Servers support everything)
Additionally, check their tls/ssl encryption (by using https://xmpp.net or maybe https://tls.imirhil.fr/ (choose xmpp instead of https))
Further more it's important to release that if you don't have to pay you should make a donation too them.
mailbox.org / kqiafglit242fygz.onion includes email and costs 1 Euro per month (https://support-en.mailbox.org/knowledge-base/article/the-tor-exit-node…) and the support dane
or maybe jabber.calyxinstitute.org / ijeeynrc6x2uy5ob.onion but their servers doesn't support omeo but neither does tormessenger
riseup.net might be interesting, too (at least think about a donation!)
---
For the tor people, their's already a database (ie page in the tor wiki) of mail-provider that work with tor -- maybe someone could start something similar for xmpp servers and than just put in some key points - like tls v 1.2 supported, otr enforced, omeo support, onion address
Regarding the database: The
Regarding the database: The CoyIM suggests the use of the tor hidden service if someone puts in a xmpp address that's also available via an onion address (I think that might be interesting feature for a later release).
Yes, this is planned. But
Yes, this is planned. But there's also been some pushback on doing that automatically.
See https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/13855
xmpp.github.com
xmpp.github.com
don't work :(
don't work :(
Here's a list of some xmpp
Here's a list of some xmpp servers w/ onions,
https://github.com/nickcalyx/xmpp-onion-map/blob/master/onions-map.lua
Check this list
Check this list https://gultsch.de/compliance.html
> Please note that Tor
> Please note that Tor Messenger is still in beta. The purpose of this release is to help test the application and provide feedback. At-risk users should not depend on it for their privacy and safety.
In some places, the situation is too desperate for citizens to heed such warnings.
Reporters: TM is the only thing some of us can use! Please get an account at jabber.calyxinstitute.org and familiarize yourselves with authentication methods. There are important stories which are not being told, and you need to tell them.
Calyxinstitute.org is US[1]
Calyxinstitute.org is US[1] based and could be forced by various US agencies to hand over meta-data (ips, user-id, loging times, possibly contact lists etc) or even to start to save those data if they don't exist with out that Calyx Institute is allowed to speak about it (as could Open Whispers System/Signal). Just because they say they don't, doesn't mean that they won't be forced to do so.
Ie if your thread model includes thee-letter US agencies etc. a US-based central server (either xmpp, email etc) might not be the best choice in the first place. (It might be better to look for something less centralized -- and for just daily use the OMEMO protocol, which allows to send encrypted messages to contacts that are offline, seems the better way to go -- unfortunately, there are less than a handful of clients supporting it right now(it doesn't even have an official XEP jet), eg Gajim, Conversations and Chatsecure (beta) [2])
[1]
https://calyxinstitute.org/support-us/donate-via-mail
The Calyx Institute
Attn: Development
287 Spring Street
New York, NY 10013
[2]https://twitter.com/ChatSecure/status/800849050559856640
Calyx Institute with TM is
Calyx Institute with TM is the only thing I was ever able to get to work, one reason why I think TM is so promising. All the other things people suggest are unworkable for most people.
An analogy might help: think of observing a six year old who is constantly asking questions about everything, because they simply don't know how do things adults take for granted: how to dress oneself, how to open various kinds of doors, how to clamber onto the school bus, the function of "walk signs" at crosswalks, etc. I think many people here mean well, but they have forgotten how complicated using these protocols really are. Try writing down a complete--- and I mean *complete*--- flow chart listing *every* step, not assuming anything such as that someone has a credit card or bitcoins or hundreds of US dollars handy.
TM is something you can download, unpack and start using if you have a jabber account anywhere, and Calyx has been helpful in making it easy to get one of those gratis.
Also, as a lifelong anti-fascist, I have no desire to live in a fascist country, but I can't leave, so... to some extent I am past caring.
> Please note that Tor
> Please note that Tor Messenger is still in beta. The purpose of this release is to help test the application and provide feedback. At-risk users should not depend on it for their privacy and safety.
Good advice, except that really the same could be said about Linux itself, the OS underlying the "least unsafe" ways to use Tor Browser and Tor Messenger.
It is great that memory address randomization recently came to TB, but a recent development shows that this is not enough:
http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/11/elegant-0day-unicorn-underscore…
Elegant 0-day unicorn underscores “serious concerns” about Linux security
Scriptless exploit bypasses state-of-the-art protections baked into the OS.
Dan Goodin
22 Nov 2016
> Recently released exploit code makes people running fully patched versions of Fedora and other Linux distributions vulnerable to drive-by attacks that can install keyloggers, backdoors, and other types of malware, a security researcher says.
>
> One of the exploits—which targets a memory corruption vulnerability in the GStreamer framework that by default ships with many mainstream Linux distributions—is also noteworthy for its elegance. To wit: it uses a rarely seen approach to defeat address space layout randomization and data execution prevention, which are two of the security protections built in to Linux to make software exploits harder to carry out. ASLR randomizes the locations in computer memory where software loads specific chunks of code. As a result, code that exploits existing flaws often results in a simple computer crash rather than a catastrophic system compromise. Meanwhile, DEP, which is often referred to as NX or No-Execute, blocks the execution of code that such exploits load into memory.
We are in an arms race, for sure.
The promoted comments hint at the fact that while this appears very dangerous (the underlying flaw is in the Linux kernel, not the GStreamer application), attackers may have a hard time exploiting the bug against wary Linux users.
An arms race is USA and
An arms race is USA and Russia trying to make more ICBMs than the other.
ASLR and NX/DEP are the equivalent of a race to make better helmets. They're not something that you can arm yourself with and cause damage with. The NSA does nothing but damage computers, mostly American ones.
QubesOS has good enough helmets to stop this attack even with an unpatched, vulnerable Linux running on it.
It has an easy to use GUI requiring no technical knowledge to run your browser in a "DispVM" which is like automatically making a new computer and disposing it for you when you close the browser or when a hacker crashes your browser.
It's vaguely comparable to running TAILS from a read-only CD but a million million times easier.
It only takes a second to remake the "disposable VM" and NO COMPLICATED TERMINAL WIZARDRY NEEDED.
When is it coming for
When is it coming for Android?????????
There are currently no plans
There are currently no plans to bring it to mobile. Consider using Signal, or maybe Conversations?
Also, please see https://ocewjwkdco.tudasnich.de/blog/mission-improbable-hardening-android-s…
Mac mini, 16GB, macOS
Mac mini, 16GB, macOS Sierra.
This beta did the tor connection ok, and connecting to Twitter works. But it seems to be unable to connect via GTalk. It fails with the message - "Error: Received unexpected data".
Please see
Please see https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorMessenger/FAQ#Goog…
Let us know if, after trying that, there are still connection issues.
what advantages is TM over
what advantages is TM over pidgin ? why not make advice for pidgin and help libpurple ? reivinent wheel , no ?
Please see "Why
Please see "Why Instantbird",
https://ocewjwkdco.tudasnich.de/blog/tor-messenger-beta-chat-over-tor-easily
And our original analysis of Pidgin,
https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2013-October/005544.html
thanks guys! always
thanks guys! always preferred instantbird over pidgin
(In case you missed it,
(In case you missed it, https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2013-October/005555.html as well.)
Take a look at the new chat
Take a look at the new chat protocol called Matrix, if you haven't already. It is open standard, federated and now recently had it's E2E encrypted group-chat code audited.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_%28communication_protocol%29
https://matrix.org/blog/2016/11/21/matrixs-olm-end-to-end-encryption-se…
Yeah, someone is already
Yeah, someone is already working on implementing this upstream in Instantbird, after which it'll be pulled into Tor Messenger.
See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1199855
<3
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Is in future plan to add
Is in future plan to add hidden services to reach your contacts without relying on messaging servers (like ricochet)?
Possibly, that was one of
Possibly, that was one of the things we discussed at our meeting in Seattle this year. How to distinguish TM in the messaging space.
See https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/meetings/2016SummerDe…
They have tor messenger for
They have tor messenger for android??
See above,
See above, https://ocewjwkdco.tudasnich.de/comment/reply/1237/221238
would it be better if the
would it be better if the tbb came with tor messenger so like there bundled together
Followed the procedures here
Followed the procedures here https://sedvblmbog.tudasnich.de/docs/verifying-signatures.html.en to verify the package and ended with this:
gpg --verify tor-messenger-linux64-0.3.0b1_en-US.tar.xz{.asc*,}
gpg: Signature made Tue 22 Nov 2016 08:48:45 AM WET using RSA key ID 6DA77FAA
gpg: BAD signature from "Sukhbir Singh "
But the link says that the "output should say "Good signature":" But this isn't the case here.
Is the package altered or what?
But no
But no tor-messenger-linux64-0.3.0b1_en-US.tar.xz.asc is provided, so that won't work.
What you want to do is download the sha256sums-unsigned-build.txt (and .asc for that), then
gpg --verify sha256sums-unsigned-build.txt.asc
that'll give you a good signature.
Next, look at the shas in that file (sha256sums-unsigned-build.txt), and run
shasum -a 256 tor-messenger-linux64-0.3.0b1_en-US.tar.xz
they should match,
f5a4aa5bcd096ecc4a2788eaca3c7978c42d058cde101635421798ca638ece5a
Thanks! They match :))
Thanks! They match :))
Is OMEMO support coming? OTR
Is OMEMO support coming? OTR just doesn't work when you have multiple devices, or need a group chat.
We have a ticket for this
We have a ticket for this that you can track,
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/17457
Restricted in Saudi Arabia
Restricted in Saudi Arabia
Did you try configuring a
Did you try configuring a pluggable transport in the Tor Network Settings wizard that pops up at application launch?
You need to use the obfs4
You need to use the obfs4 bridge
Some confusion here... I
Some confusion here... I gather that TM is not in itself a messenger meaning I cannot give an ID to another TM user and chat.
If correct, then what chat options does one have and is there an FAQ explaining how to implement them.
Thanks.
You're correct in that Tor
You're correct in that Tor Messenger is not an identity provider, and does not host a network. It implements the client side of transport protocols you may already be familiar with, like XMPP, IRC, and Twitter.
You would need to register an account for one of those services and then enter that information in TM to connect. You can then distribute the id to your contacts.
Hopefully that's clear.